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  Jude 22-25 JW apologists and anybody else.

  by wearewatchingyouman in

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  22 also, continue showing mercy+ to some who have doubts;+23 save them+ by snatching them out of the fire.

  but continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while you hate even the garment that has been stained by the flesh.+24 now to the one who is able to guard you from stumbling and to make you stand unblemished+ in the sight of his glory* with great joy,25 to the only god our savior through jesus christ our lord, be glory, majesty, might, and authority for all past eternity and now and into all eternity.

  so, then - why does the gb separate those who become doubtful out of fear they will stumble some?

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  My reading of the early history of Jude, 2 Peter, 2 John, 3 John, Revelation and Hebrews shows that they had a very rough ride for the first 400 years (and more) of the Christian Church. (Where was the "FDS" during those heated debates? Were people such as Origen, Irenaeus, Cyril, and Athanasius, etc., etc., members of the FDS??)

  There are too many details to go into here, so I recommend the article by Professor F.W. Beale in Volume 1 of "The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible", article: "Canon of the NT", especially pages 523-532. If you email me, I can provide a copy of these pages in Word format, which then permits words to be searched.

  (The doubt of Paul's authorship of Hebrews is indicated by its location in the NT: whereas Paul's writings are placed in order of their length, Hebrews is not positioned where it otherwise would have been - not that Paul wrote any of the "Pastorals").

  Doug
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  Who is the FDS class from midweek meeting....last night

  by Legacy in

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  last night we had our midweek meeting.

  the bible reading was from "who is doing jehovah's will....the part where they asked who was the fds.

  i thought because of the past sept. wt, every hand would go up....all you heard were crickets.

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  If there were no members of the "Slave Class" throughout history, who then were the spirit-led people who decided which books would be used as their sacred Scripture (NT)?

  Doug
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  Jude 22-25 JW apologists and anybody else.

  by wearewatchingyouman in

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  22 also, continue showing mercy+ to some who have doubts;+23 save them+ by snatching them out of the fire.

  but continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while you hate even the garment that has been stained by the flesh.+24 now to the one who is able to guard you from stumbling and to make you stand unblemished+ in the sight of his glory* with great joy,25 to the only god our savior through jesus christ our lord, be glory, majesty, might, and authority for all past eternity and now and into all eternity.

  so, then - why does the gb separate those who become doubtful out of fear they will stumble some?

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  BTW,

  The NT book of 2 Peter, which was written by a disciple of Paul in the middle of the 2nd century (about 140 CE), wrote it as a commentary on the book of Jude.

  Jude is another example of the impact of the Book of Enoch.

  Just some stuff that the WTS ignores because it does not fit their agenda.

  Doug
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  Jude 22-25 JW apologists and anybody else.

  by wearewatchingyouman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  22 also, continue showing mercy+ to some who have doubts;+23 save them+ by snatching them out of the fire.

  but continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while you hate even the garment that has been stained by the flesh.+24 now to the one who is able to guard you from stumbling and to make you stand unblemished+ in the sight of his glory* with great joy,25 to the only god our savior through jesus christ our lord, be glory, majesty, might, and authority for all past eternity and now and into all eternity.

  so, then - why does the gb separate those who become doubtful out of fear they will stumble some?

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  The WTS uses Scripture this way:

  (1) They have a position that they have arrived at.

  (2) After that, they look for a Biblical text or other source that can be made to appear to support their position.

  (3) They ignore all Biblical texts and other sources that don't agree with the conclusion they set out with.

  Look at the structure of a typical paragraph in a magazine or book. They set out their position and then append Bible references at the end. They look for "supports" of their prejudged decision.

  As a result, the WTS, despite having the word "Bible" in its title, uses very little of the Bible, and then in a presumptive manner, and it misquotes and misrepresents sources to make them fit.

  Doug
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  I am looking for a page

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  hi,.

  i am looking for a scan of: the interpreter's dictionary of the bible, edited by george a. buttrick, volume 1, page 166.. thanks,.

  doug.

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  Hi Kate,

  I am putting my mind through another course of mental gymnastics.

  Apologies for being vague, but all will be shown when I get around to finishing, which at the rate I am going will only be a few months.

  However, if you or anyone has thoughts or useful information on the New Testament Apocrypha, I will be delighted to hear from you.

  Doug
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  I am looking for a page

  by Doug Mason in

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  hi,.

  i am looking for a scan of: the interpreter's dictionary of the bible, edited by george a. buttrick, volume 1, page 166.. thanks,.

  doug.

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  Athanasius,

  Yes, that is what Iam looking for.

  How can we arrange for me to get a scan of the whole article? You will find my email address at:

  http://www.jwstudies.com/contact_me.html

  or send me a pm and I will give it to you that way.

  You can contact me knowing that I always keep confidences.

  MANY thanks,

  Doug
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  I am looking for a page

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  i am looking for a scan of: the interpreter's dictionary of the bible, edited by george a. buttrick, volume 1, page 166.. thanks,.

  doug.

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  Doug Mason

  Hi,

  I wonder if anyone can help me?

  I am looking for a scan of: The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, edited by George A. Buttrick, Volume 1, page 166.

  Thanks,

  Doug
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  In effect the GB says the new testament was only written for the 144k - right?

  by Comatose in

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  because if you just read it then its plain that all should partake of the emblems and go to heaven etc.

  they get around that by saying it only applied to those when written who all anointed and then a small group today.

  so they take away the bible for the average witness.

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  Rattigan,

  "Revelation is for our day"?

  This has been the catchcall of each generation, not just this one.

  I suggest that research into the process during the first 600 years of Christianity in regards to Revelation is in order.

  Decide whether Revelation (or any other NT book) should be in the Bible. It is only the RC Church that took a vote on which books should constitute the Bible, and that vote took place in the 15th century. All others base their decision on Tradition. Ironic, isn't it?

  Doug
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  Why guilt people into joining the Org. if there is no eternal punishment in the first place?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  during the recruiting process, cult members use coercive methods of instilling guilt on those who are weak minded .

  thus making them join out of fear.

  the watchtower publication use powerful/scary illustrations in their .

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  Religions convince people they have a problem ("sin") and that the only way to solve it solution is to join them and follow their instructions. The religions point to difficulties that a person is experiencing and the concerns they have, then they paint pictures of the Perfect Life that lies ahead when they join the religion.

  The dream can be useful to help some people cope with life.

  Money? Those glorious cathedrals in Europe were paid for by people who contributed money ("indulgences") in order to buy their way out.

  Religion
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  Why does Hebrews 6 say that it is impossible to revive to repentance one who has "fallen away"?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  in the "reasoning" book (pages 34-37), this scripture is used to help define and understand apostasy: .

  hebrews 6:4-6 .

  "for as regards those who were once enlightened and who have tasted the heavenly free gift and who have become partakers of holy spirit and who have tasted the fine word of god and powers of the coming system of things, but have fallen away, it is impossible to revive them again to repentance, because they nail the son of god to the stake again for themselves and expose him to public shame.

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  Caroline,

  Strictly speaking, the "New Testament" did not appear until almost 400 years after the "Apostolic Times". And the "New Testament" was still open for argument a further few centuries.

  Doug